And just when I thought the land of no feedback was boring.
This is an ugly, ugly direction to go in. I can just smell the 'no drawing from photographs' schtick coming a mile away. Did Wil take the pose? Yeah, duh. Was it for a professional peice? Will anyone see it? It was a picture he did for you, of your alter-ego. Your outrage and concern are pretty baseless, unless you feel like parading the two peices side-by-side at all the comic conventions where Wil trys to show off his portfolio.
You may be an artist, Kal, but so am I, and so are a lot of people here. You don't have a unique elevated vantage point that lets you see this issue all the more clearly than the rest of us. I sat through sixteen course hours of art history to get my manditory minor. Care to know what I came away with? The use of light tables, drawing over/through photographic processes and "painting after" are means of learning that have been present in the artistic medium for as long as there has been artistic training. Once upon a time it was commonplace for artists to draw and paint paintings already made by other, better artists, in order to learn from them. What's good for Rembrandt is good for Wil.
By saying that working from a preexistant drawing is a total crutch for imagination and expression, the next logical step is to make the same decloration about photography. Photography, is, in and of itself, art, and to draw from it, to use the poses and captured still images, is a total crunch on the imagination. Why use the features of a real human being when you can imagine up a ficticious person? From there we can wipe out life drawing as the next logical step. Starting to get kind of stupid, isn't it?
Yeah, Wil's adaptation of the pose was a tad extreme. One could chalk that up to a lack of creativity and a major artistic "cheat", or one can chalk it up to it up to the time that goes into creation of a unique poster-style composition, and saving that time and effort for his own works.
I've said it before, but the whole "lack of creativity" thing is a mace you don't want to start swinging around here. Just about everyone's head is gonna get smashed in. Fan character designs that are male characters turned femme aside, there's the overall concept of fan-art, which uses other people's characters and designs. I've seen overt tracing from Marvel Universe entries here, amongst other things. Maybe we can lay down a few manditory creativity declarations. Major finger waggling if someone does a static "hey I'm just standin' here" pose? What about a permanent ban on femme-cradled-in-Starscream's-arms-just-as-they're-about-to-kiss pics, heaven knows those are getting old.
Was Wil's pose-swipe shameless. Yeah, kinda. Was it the equivilent of drowning a sack full of kittens? Nope, especially not in light of things that commonly go on in this forum and the actual intent of the peice. You can't apply edicts of this sort selectively. Its all or nothing.
And while we're on the subject of creativity... a brooding dark-elf weilding twin swords?
-Trent
This is an ugly, ugly direction to go in. I can just smell the 'no drawing from photographs' schtick coming a mile away. Did Wil take the pose? Yeah, duh. Was it for a professional peice? Will anyone see it? It was a picture he did for you, of your alter-ego. Your outrage and concern are pretty baseless, unless you feel like parading the two peices side-by-side at all the comic conventions where Wil trys to show off his portfolio.
You may be an artist, Kal, but so am I, and so are a lot of people here. You don't have a unique elevated vantage point that lets you see this issue all the more clearly than the rest of us. I sat through sixteen course hours of art history to get my manditory minor. Care to know what I came away with? The use of light tables, drawing over/through photographic processes and "painting after" are means of learning that have been present in the artistic medium for as long as there has been artistic training. Once upon a time it was commonplace for artists to draw and paint paintings already made by other, better artists, in order to learn from them. What's good for Rembrandt is good for Wil.
By saying that working from a preexistant drawing is a total crutch for imagination and expression, the next logical step is to make the same decloration about photography. Photography, is, in and of itself, art, and to draw from it, to use the poses and captured still images, is a total crunch on the imagination. Why use the features of a real human being when you can imagine up a ficticious person? From there we can wipe out life drawing as the next logical step. Starting to get kind of stupid, isn't it?
Yeah, Wil's adaptation of the pose was a tad extreme. One could chalk that up to a lack of creativity and a major artistic "cheat", or one can chalk it up to it up to the time that goes into creation of a unique poster-style composition, and saving that time and effort for his own works.
I've said it before, but the whole "lack of creativity" thing is a mace you don't want to start swinging around here. Just about everyone's head is gonna get smashed in. Fan character designs that are male characters turned femme aside, there's the overall concept of fan-art, which uses other people's characters and designs. I've seen overt tracing from Marvel Universe entries here, amongst other things. Maybe we can lay down a few manditory creativity declarations. Major finger waggling if someone does a static "hey I'm just standin' here" pose? What about a permanent ban on femme-cradled-in-Starscream's-arms-just-as-they're-about-to-kiss pics, heaven knows those are getting old.
Was Wil's pose-swipe shameless. Yeah, kinda. Was it the equivilent of drowning a sack full of kittens? Nope, especially not in light of things that commonly go on in this forum and the actual intent of the peice. You can't apply edicts of this sort selectively. Its all or nothing.
And while we're on the subject of creativity... a brooding dark-elf weilding twin swords?
-Trent
